Shut down the enemy's mega shipyard (2024)

Shut down megastructures: Yes, good idea!
Using ground troopes: No, to much war focus.

In case of the mega shipyard, it should count as a starbase and as soon you conquered the system, it shouldn't be used for production by your enemy anymore.
To shut down a megastructure on a regular basis for a certain amount of time (not destruction) i think an espionage action would be quite fitting. Maybe we get something similar with Nemesis. A advanced version of this operation could be some kind of damaging the mega structure so, the target has to build it's last stage again and can't use the structure until it's done. This would be most likely a "provocation" action, so it's quite expensive and hard to manage.

this really needs to be adressed, the notifications alone are driving me crazy.

new battle result notification every single second when the megashipyard spits out a new ship and gets destroyed by my fleet.

A2ch0n said:

In case of the mega shipyard, it should count as a starbase and as soon you conquered the system, it shouldn't be used for production by your enemy anymore.

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GhostDanny said:

Enemy Mega Shipyard = Free Admiral experience.

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Technically yes, but no. It's still dumb that nations can use Mega structures in systems they've lost control over.

TheRevanchist25 said:

Technically yes, but no. It's still dumb that nations can use Mega structures in systems they've lost control over.

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I can still see a reason to that since the mega shipyard is basically a structure the size of a planet. So that they don't seize work immediately only because the starbase is lost seems fair to me. It's okay if you need to put in some extra work to shut it down.

Bombarding may not deal with it since the shipyard will still spawn fleets and distract you from that task. That's why I thought ground troops may be a good idea: Send in your troops and conquer the shipyard "planet". Would make ground troop management also more viable I think.
But hey, either way sth. needs to be done.

Yeah, taking (and holding) the starbase should prevent new ships from being queued up -- ships the AI has already paid for might as well get built, there's no problem with that, but no new ones should be purchasable.

Even better would be being able to cut the supply lines to a Mega Shipyard, but that would require a supply line system.

Change the mega-shipyard to have a massive hangar allowing for a smallish fleet of space ships to be created before releasing them all at once in the case of enemy occupation instead of single-file, also make it possible to seize and occupy a megastructure with ground troops / or defend them for that matter. Would perhaps make a fun extra megastructure that has no other purpose but anchoring down a system with FTL-LOCK while being immune to orbital bombardment and hard to conquer with ground troops - requiring a much larger ground force to assault it / allows the defending empire to plop down a huge army on the mega-fortress to block your advance until you manage to raise a big enough army to defeat them on the ground. Certainly would stop anyone from just orbital-bombarding everything into dust.

Would also be a good reason to add armies to the damn end-game crisis (Armageddon bombardment is fine and all, but why not at least add invasion armies on top so ground defences actually matter in an end-game crisis...)

I for one love the idea of bloody battles on the ground and hate how irrelevant ground combat is in the face of an end-game crisis. There are ways to use ground forces effectively in a empire vs empire battle but the bloody unbidden for example have nada ground troops.. Just add some smaller hungry spectres simply following their fleet that directly descend to the ground-level while the rest of their fleet goes for an Armageddon bombardment as usual. Also leaves them as an extra problem to deal with - if you manage to repel/distract their fleet only after their ground invasion has already landed you could still end up losing the planet as the smaller spectres defeat you on the ground.

Edit: that got pretty far off-topic huh?

I would say it should be a viable target to be destroyed as well!!!

Invincible and indestructible structures make 0 sense in a game where one can destroy planets!!!

They should be able to be destroyed, but only outside of war.

During war, they should not cost upkeep for the opponent though.
Having them either be disabled completely or at a massively reduced operational capacity, somewhere like 80% reduction.

I think all mega structures should be destructable... as in they revert to a "ruined state" after an insane amount of damage.

BUT in also think the military focused megastructures should come with a decent self defense capability, and be more resilient than citadels.

Example, A fully completed Mega shipyard has :
100000hp
50000armor
4 large weapons slots
4 missile launchers
8 point defence placements
16 medium weapon slots

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Orbital Ring shipyards are also a nuisance in this version.

jmpveg22 said:

I think all mega structures should be destructable... as in they revert to a "ruined state" after an insane amount of damage.

BUT in also think the military focused megastructures should come with a decent self defense capability, and be more resilient than citadels.

Example, A fully completed Mega shipyard has :
100000hp
50000armor
4 large weapons slots
4 missile launchers
8 point defence placements
16 medium weapon slots

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Or a single fighter with a precisely fired photon torpedo may be able to do the job